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The U.S. Military Academy Hosted Terrorism Symposium – Conservative Base


NYPD Assistant Commissioner for Intelligence
Evaluation Rebecca Weiner

Assistant Commissioner for Intelligence Evaluation Rebecca Ulam Weiner manages counterterrorism and cyber intelligence evaluation and manufacturing for the New York Metropolis Police Division’s Intelligence Bureau. She is among the principal advisors to the Deputy Commissioner of Intelligence and Counterterrorism and she or he shares duty for Bureau-wide coverage improvement and program administration. Assistant Commissioner Weiner coordinates and integrates intelligence evaluation and operations and represents the NYPD in issues involving counterterrorism and intelligence.  She was the primary native regulation enforcement consultant to the Workplace of the Director of Nationwide Intelligence’s Nationwide Intelligence Council, within the Workplace of Transnational Threats. She additionally served as Authorized Counsel to the Intelligence Bureau’s Intelligence Evaluation Unit and as Workforce Chief for the Center East & North Africa, overseeing intelligence assortment and evaluation associated to threats related to these areas.

Director of Counterterrorism Intelligence Evaluation Meghann Teubner oversees strategic and investigative evaluation for the New York Metropolis Police Division’s Intelligence Bureau. On this capability, she directs intelligence evaluation and manufacturing on terrorism developments and developments all over the world and potential threats to New York Metropolis in help of NYPD management in addition to the counterterrorism missions of private and non-private regulation enforcement and safety companions. Previous to becoming a member of the NYPD, Director Teubner was an analyst and senior consultant with the Nationwide Counterterrorism Middle (NCTC). As NCTC’s consultant based mostly in New York, she ensured the mixing of effort between NCTC and its federal, state, native, and tribal companions within the northeast area, facilitating info sharing and collaboration in help of all companions’ counterterrorism missions. As an analyst in NCTC’s Directorate of Intelligence, Ms. Teubner developed strategic terrorism evaluation on al-Qa`ida-related points and the evolution of the terrorism menace panorama.

Under is the transcript from one of many periods for regulation enforcement and army personnel through the Nationwide Counterterrorism Middle’s symposium in New York Metropolis

CTC: You head up counterterrorism intelligence evaluation for the NYPD. What position does this play within the police division’s wider counterterrorism efforts?

Weiner: Publish-9/11, then-Police Commissioner Ray Kelly created a strong counterterrorism program, housed in two bureaus: the Intelligence Bureau, the place Meghann and I work, and the Counterterrorism Bureau. At its most elementary, the Intelligence Bureau is charged with intelligence assortment and investigations, relationship constructing—via 14 liaison officers posted abroad and 4 home liaisons—and evaluation, all for the aim of prevention. The Intelligence Bureau’s investigators collect intelligence in help of terrorism investigations and have disrupted dozens of terrorism threats towards New York Metropolis. The Counterterrorism Bureau provides over 100 detectives to the FBI-NYPD Joint Terrorism Activity Pressure, which focuses on prevention as properly. These two entities work independently of each other, however collaborate and coordinate hand-in-glove. The Counterterrorism Bureau additionally deploys our frontline forces, the CRC [Critical Response Command] groups you see with the heavy vests and long-guns defending key targets and the Bomb Squad. That is all by way of the lens of overt goal hardening and preparedness, in addition to response and mitigation.

The intelligence evaluation elements, which we oversee, are just like the hub of a wheel, with all the numerous assortment mechanisms because the spokes. We’ve a staff of civilian analysts and uniformed investigators whose job is to absorb all the knowledge that comes our means—whether or not it comes from our human sources and different investigative assets, our companions, or the general public by way of our leads hotline—and switch it into intelligence, each tactical and strategic.

Teubner: Our intelligence merchandise inform not solely investigations but in addition the preparedness of the Division. If there’s an incident domestically or abroad, we’ll put out an analytic report that gives context and focuses on implications to the menace surroundings right here in New York and that helps play right into a preparedness response right here. The analysts draw perception from info and experience offered by our abroad liaison posts, who’re stationed strategically in police departments throughout the globe. Even when we don’t assess that an incident poses a direct menace to New York, we might put further assets at comparable targets regionally, say, a transit hub. After an incident just like the [December 11, 2018] Strasbourg Christmas market assault, we are likely to deploy further assets to ship an overt message particularly to New Yorkers that we’re considering strategically and tactically about what is occurring globally and the way which may impression New York. And we need to just remember to really feel protected going about your day-to-day enterprise.

Weiner: Whereas the core mission of our unit is informing the investigators and officers that we’re partnered with concerning the menace panorama because it modifications—which is finally a really tactical job at its core—it’s also about informing our companions, and the general public.

CTC: Relating to the jihadi terrorist menace, how are you seeing that menace evolve relating to New York Metropolis?

Teubner: We’ve seen the menace evolve from al-Qa`ida, from the externally directed menace, which NYPD Deputy Commissioner of Intelligence and Counterterrorism John Miller has described as very deep, very complicated, however very narrow1 to a way more numerous menace throughout the ideological spectrum from a variety of actors with various levels of connectivity to teams or networks. And whereas the menace actors abroad turned extra dispersed, we noticed a shift within the menace panorama by way of using propaganda—I’m considering particularly Anwar al-Awlaki and the launch of Encourage journal to encourage lone actors and supply particular steerage for profitable assaults. ISIS took that mannequin and exponentially intensified it by means of use of a number of social media platforms and vary of messages to attraction to the widest potential viewers.

We assess that that lone-actor menace is probably the most prevalent menace to New York Metropolis and can possible proceed to be so. These lone actors eat extremist and violent content material primarily on-line and on social media and assemble their very own narratives, which can embrace private grievances, emotional stress, and violent extremism, to radicalize, to mobilize-to-violence. There’s a huge quantity of obtainable propaganda, whether or not it’s older or repackaged al-Qa`ida and Anwar al-Awlaki messages or the constant propaganda that we see from ISIS and the group’s sympathizers.

Weiner: We undertook a challenge earlier this yr that appears backwards to 2001 at threats towards New York Metropolis and from that tasks ahead to 2023—an Intelligence Estimate for New York Metropolis.2 A pair dominant themes emerged. One is what Meghann was simply describing, which is a shift from externally directed plots to lone, typically native actors, which actually begins in 2009-2010. The second is a marked uptick in tempo.

We counted 29 publicly disclosed plots towards New York Metropolis since 2001. From 2001 via 2009, there have been 12. Two of them have been the product of lone actors, and 10 have been externally directed. Since 2010, we now have seen 17—14 of which might be attributed to lone actors, versus three that have been externally directed. That’s a reasonably dramatic flip-flop.

As far as the tempo is worried, since ISIS’ declaration of the caliphate in the summertime of 2014, we’ve had 12 disrupted plots and assaults in New York Metropolis. 4 of the 12 have been in some respects profitable. You had Zale Thompson, who attacked a gaggle of cops with a hatchet in Queens in [October] 2014, which was a number of months after the declaration. After which extra just lately, [September 2016 ‘Chelsea bomber’ Ahmad] Rahimi, [alleged October 2017 ‘West Side Bike Path truck attacker’ Sayfullo] Saipov, and [December 2017 ‘Port Authority’ bomber Akayed] Ullah.

Accompanying the shift to lone actors, we see a blurring of ideology with different extra idiosyncratic drivers. And sometimes a mixing of disparate, typically even mutually unique, ideologies. The idiosyncrasy of a lone actor performs out within the terrorism panorama extra visibly now than it used to, and that’s as a result of people depart strongly imprinted social media footprints that give us perception into the nuance of their motivations greater than ever. In lots of instances, the violence of lone actors is justified of their minds by ideology greater than pushed by it. That’s why we see neo-Nazis turn out to be jihadists or [we see] black separatist extremist ISIS adherents.

CTC: However the assaults in late 2018 in Strasbourg and Manchester, there appears to have been from late 2017 some discount within the menace from jihadi terrorism in Europe due to the demise of the Islamic State caliphate, the removing from the battlefield of most of the group’s exterior operations planners,a and maybe, although it’s troublesome to measure, due to a diminution within the enthusiasm of Islamic State sympathizers in Europe. Have you ever seen a fall-off in plotting exercise with regards to New York Metropolis because the Islamic State misplaced territorial management of its caliphate?

Weiner: No, we haven’t seen a lot of a fall-off, due to the rise in plots impressed by jihadi terrorist teams. And we anticipate that to proceed within the near-term. It’s necessary to notice that the 2 terrorist assaults New York Metropolis suffered in 2017 have been carried out after the liberation of Mosul and Raqqa. Despite the fact that directed and enabled terror plots can typically contain extra harmful capabilities, we have to deal with the ‘impressed’ menace very critically—take a look at the Pulse nightclub assault in Orlando in 2016. You don’t have to have been educated by ISIS or to have been speaking with them to kill lots of people utilizing available weapons towards mushy targets of alternative.

It’s true, nevertheless, that we don’t see as many ISIS members abroad who’re enabling of the sort of plotting that we noticed in 2015. What you do have is constant steerage for individuals to remain house and perform native assaults. The diminution in enthusiasm performs out rather more within the traveler panorama for us than within the assault panorama. Individuals are being actively discouraged from touring, so though the general pool of mobilized recruits could also be diminished, a better proportion of those that stay need to perform a kinetic assault regionally.

CTC: Al-Qa`ida and its associates up to now few years appear to have targeted extra on build up its capabilities regionally quite than on concentrating on the West. However in late December 2018, U.Okay. Safety Minister Ben Wallace warned that, “Al-Qaeda are resurgent. They’ve reorganised. They’re pushing increasingly more plots in the direction of Europe and have turn into acquainted with new strategies and nonetheless aspire to aviation assaults.” In 2018, al-Qa`ida chief Ayman al-Zawahiri appeared to ratchet up his menace rhetoric towards the USA and launched an elevated variety of statements. A decade because the 2009 al-Qa`ida-directed Najibullah Zazi New York subway bombing plot was thwarted, is al-Qa`ida reemerging as a big menace to New York Metropolis?

Teubner: We proceed to evaluate [that] al-Qa`ida maintains the strategic intent to conduct an assault right here within the U.S.—probably in New York—underlined by disseminated official propaganda by the group and its associates. We stay involved that the group’s legacy plotting might proceed to advance regardless of counterterrorism strain and the removing of al-Qa`ida and affiliate leaders from the battlefield, leaders reminiscent of Ibrahim al-Asiri, AQAP’s progressive explosives professional who allegedly died in late 2017. In current audio messages, Hamza bin Ladin, Usama bin Ladin’s son, said that America stays the group’s precedence goal and additional encourages supporters to conduct assaults utilizing any means mandatory.

In 2018, we noticed the formation of Syria-based, al-Qa`ida-affiliated Hurras al-Din; we assess this represents a possible exterior operations menace to New York Metropolis resulting from its composition of skilled al-Qa`ida fighters, some with connections to veteran al-Qa`ida members with a legacy of planning assaults within the West, demonstrated battlefield bona fides, and entry to overseas fighters in Syria.

CTC: Switching gears, there’s rising concern on each side of the Atlantic and notably right here in the USA about excessive right-wing terrorism. There was that horrible assault on a synagogue in Pittsburgh in October 2018. There was the car-ramming assault in Charlottesville in August 2017. If you guys get to the workplace within the morning, how a lot a part of your concern set now’s that excessive right-wing terror menace to this metropolis?

Teubner: Once we’re wanting on the lone-actor menace, we particularly are taking a look at it agnostic to the ideology as a result of what we’ve discovered is that a number of the drivers are comparable.

In the event you take a look at our numbers, we’ve skilled extra salafi-jihadi extremism directed or impressed plots right here in New York. That being stated, is way right-wing violent extremism of concern to us? Completely. We’ve had two incidents right here during the last two years of lone actors doubtless impressed partially by violent extreme-right rhetoric espoused on-line: James Harris Jackson who allegedly got here from Baltimore to conduct an assault concentrating on African People in New York, particularly eager to conduct his assault in New York to garner extra consideration for that assault; and Cesar Sayoc’s alleged mailing of a number of improvised explosive units to victims throughout the U.S., with three particularly in New York Metropolis.

Excessive far-right and far-left networks or teams usually restrict their exercise in New York Metropolis to First Modification-protected actions reminiscent of rallies and protests; nevertheless, we do assess a small variety of these they encourage might conduct acts of violence in help of their respective ideologies. Our concern is that there’s the identical type of echo chambers within the excessive right-wing terrorism ecosystem that we have now within the ISIS and al-Qa`ida panorama, in that you’ve people that get on social media platforms, they share their violent ideology, they search out like-minded people, they usually radicalize and mobilize one another.

Weiner: What’s fascinating about each [the alleged Florida-based October 2018 package bomber Cesar] Sayoc and [the Baltimore-based] Jackson is that they have been each lone actors who allegedly selected New York as a goal as a way to amplify their message. Sayoc didn’t simply select New York, he selected a information group right here within the metropolis, the media capital of the nation. Jackson additionally particularly stated he was in search of media consideration in New York.

On-line, we do see a rise in white-supremacist exercise. And it has a special manifestation than the ISIS-inspired sort, since you don’t have the formal group construction that’s on the foundation of worldwide terrorist organizations. The acute-right surroundings is rather more inchoate.

It’s additionally value noting that neo-Nazi propaganda truly more and more appears like ISIS or AQ propaganda, with the identical slick manufacturing worth, the identical themes, the identical aesthetic types.

All this being stated, the menace panorama confronted by New York Metropolis has been dominated by jihadi terrorism—26 of the 29 plots and assaults from 2001 have been within the al-Qa`ida/ISIS directed, enabled, impressed sphere. We had one Hezbollah plot lately, too, with the arrest of Ali Kourani in June of 2017, and we’re watchful over that potential menace, too.

Once we say the menace panorama is diversifying, we imply throughout the ideological spectrum. And we assess that New York Metropolis will stay a draw for violent extremists throughout that spectrum.

CTC: So what I’m listening to is that also the bulk a part of the priority and a spotlight right here in New York Metropolis—given the metrics you’re coping with, the threats you’re coping with—is on the jihadi terror aspect of the ledger. However in current months and years, excessive right-wing terror has grow to be a larger concern and extra evaluation and assets are going into it. Would you say than ever earlier than?

Weiner: Greater than ever earlier than, completely. And aware of the menace because it modifications. And that’s how our program was designed to be.

CTC: Given there’s a giant Jewish group in New York Metropolis, presumably the Pittsburgh assault solely added to your considerations?

Weiner: I might say Pittsburgh is the manifestation of a whole lot of our considerations quite than the initiator of them. An assault of this type is one thing that we’ve been defending towards for a few years. We now have proof of why that’s been so needed. We had the assets in place within the speedy aftermath of Pittsburgh to surge automobiles and officers and different target-hardening measures throughout New York Metropolis to guard the Jewish group. That’s been what we’ve been doing and coaching for the previous 17 years in response to incidents of terrorist violence whatever the goal.

Teubner: Our investigators and analysts have additionally had strong engagement with the Jewish group, sharing info on the present menace surroundings for situational consciousness.

CTC: Do you assess the menace to media organizations has gone up?

Teubner: I feel that the menace to information organizations has not essentially elevated, however the menace has grow to be extra numerous. The menace to media organizations has been comparatively constant and round for some time; we noticed the concentrating on of the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten and the French satirical journal Charlie Hebdo. Half of what’s doubtless making the menace extra numerous now’s the persistent and pervasive us-versus-them narrative that’s enjoying out within the physique politic of america and globally, which may probably result in radicalization when exploited by extremists to encourage violence.

CTC: And social media is creating an echo chamber for all spectrum of ideological motivation, proper? And offering individuals with a way that there are different individuals like them who assume like them and may help what they could need to do, and this could propel individuals to motion extra shortly.

Weiner: I feel that’s true. Organized teams and lone people each understand that the easiest way to amplify a message is to assault the media. With social media, that’s been much more simply achieved. In 2013-2014, we began to note a development that we name “dying reside,” the place individuals look to social or typical media to livestream their acts of violence, whether or not directed towards themselves, others, or each. There was an incident in Virginia the place a newscaster was killed on digital camera in the midst of a broadcast. In France, a police officer was killed and his three-year-old son was on the sofa whereas the perpetrator livestreamed his manifesto confession on-line. The sad convergence of violence and social media has created a really ripe working setting for teams to show up the quantity.

CTC: Let’s flip to the query of unconventional threats towards New York Metropolis. Again in 2003, there was an aborted al-Qa`ida plot to launch a poison-gas assault concentrating on the New York subway. With the rise of the Islamic State, we’ve seen a terrorist group that has used and developed chemical weapons. In the summertime of 2017, we noticed an alleged terrorist plot thwarted in Sydney, Australia, by a cell that allegedly not solely plotted to explode a passenger jet but in addition was in communication with an Islamic State controller in Syria on how one can make a poison-gas dispersal system. And in June 2018 in Cologne, Germany, we noticed the thwarting of an alleged plot involving an extremist who allegedly managed to make a big amount of ricin. The alleged Cologne plotter was suspected to be in contact with a minimum of two Islamic State-linked figures abroad and to have acquired recommendation on the right way to make ricin, in addition to most probably consulting a web-based jihadi video tutorial. Is there rising concern out of your perspective over the menace that terrorists might goal New York Metropolis with such forms of weapons?

Teubner: There’s a number of thought that goes into this menace inside the Intelligence and Counterterrorism Bureaus. Disrupted plots and arrests within the U.S., Germany, and France over the summer time of 2018 spotlight continued curiosity in conducting assaults utilizing ricin by extremists motivated by ISIS and the group’s propaganda. We’ve seen some propaganda posters and a few propaganda messages that encourage chemical, organic sort assaults, and in some instances we’ve seen that direct steerage on the best way to make ricin which allegedly occurred within the disrupted plot in Cologne, Germany.

The steerage for tips on how to make ricin is on the market and is comparatively easy. Once we’re taking a look at this analytically, we expect the easiest way to counter this menace isn’t solely to trace the propaganda and obtainable steerage, however present situational consciousness for our clients, each internally and externally, for preparedness and resiliency towards the menace. We put together tactical evaluation merchandise that we push out for all uniformed members of service in addition to our personal and different federal, state, and native companions.

Once we’re speaking concerning the Sydney plot particularly, that’s when partnership actually comes into play and our relationships with overseas companions developed by our abroad liaison officers in addition to the FBI and different companions by means of the Joint Terrorism Activity Drive; it’s all very important for sustaining consciousness of the general menace surroundings and the plans and intentions of terrorist teams and their sympathizers.

Weiner: Inside the American panorama, it’s a reasonably aggressive advertising surroundings for terror. After Sandy Hook, after Parkland, after Las Vegas—and people aren’t even ideologically pushed acts of terrorism—how do you proceed to up the ante to shock individuals and horrify them? A chemical assault has a efficiency in individuals’s creativeness wherever it’s deployed that’s distinctive. We noticed that within the U.Okay. with Salisbury. ISIS understands that absolutely. If they will do DIY to chemical weapons the best way they’ve finished it with extra typical terrorism techniques, that might change the enjoying subject considerably.

CTC: It appears that evidently the 2017 Sydney plot, although it was a little bit of an outlier, was a possible recreation changer as a result of in line with Australian authorities the aviation assault dimension of the plot concerned the Islamic State efficiently arranging for bomb elements—primarily a partially constructed system—to be airmailed to the cell in Australia. I’ve referred to this new improvement as an IKEA-style of terrorism. Wannabe terrorists don’t have to go off and get coaching in a jihadi encampment abroad if they will simply get the elements despatched to them. The mixture of individuals within the West prepared to hold out assaults and other people capable of get them the bomb elements might change the character of the menace.

Weiner: We view Australia as a type of outliers that may be an augury of issues to return. Whereas the typical violent extremist will nonetheless take it upon him or herself to do one thing much more readily accessible than to make a mubtakkar gadget, you could have expert people on the market who’re capable of tackle this far more specialised information, maybe with the assistance of individuals abroad, and this poses a big concern.

Teubner: The Australia plot particularly pressured us to shift our thought on the specter of an exterior operation from ISIS, or any terrorist group; on this case a directed plot that doesn’t contain deployed operatives however is as an alternative extremists based mostly in nation receiving elements from abroad and attainable on-line, distant communications. This might probably improve a person’s capabilities and lethality, and additional challenges regulation enforcement capabilities to detect and disrupt by obfuscating a few of the indicators of an advancing plot.

CTC: Talking of unconventional weapons, the Islamic State has developed and used drones inside Syria and Iraq as weapons. We’ve got not but seen a single assault within the West utilizing drones. However there’s rising concern concerning the potential menace that they might pose. From a New York Metropolis perspective, what’s the menace evaluation out of your workplace about drones and what could be accomplished to mitigate the menace and to guard towards it?

Teubner: The identical approach that we might put out consciousness merchandise for ricin or terrorist incidents, we do the identical for the potential for weaponized remotely piloted plane (RPAs)/drones. There’s loads of work and knowledge sharing between the analysts and the officers which are taking a look at this from the mitigation viewpoint. From the analytic perspective, we not solely evaluate reviews of terrorist teams’ use of drones in battle zones but in addition stories of quite a lot of actors, from felony gangs to opposition teams, who’ve tried to make use of weaponized RPAs for violence. What we haven’t seen but from terrorist teams is the steerage for weaponization of drones, and we’re persistently on the lookout for it.

CTC: Steerage to do it or how to do it? 

Conservative Base’s editor Jim Kouri served as chief at a New York State Housing undertaking and on different assignments in New York Metropolis and New Jersey.

Teubner: Easy methods to do it. How one can weaponize a drone, easy methods to use a drone for violent incident. We’ve undoubtedly seen the propaganda from the battle zone demonstrating their functionality, however much less so in that package deal of particular step-by-step steerage, in the identical approach that we noticed steerage for car rammings, knife assaults, and IEDs.

CTC: In line with one counter-CBRN specialist we lately interviewed, what is completely very important when it comes to mitigating the impression of a possible unconventional weapons assault is educating the general public concerning the menace and that this might help forestall a harmful stampede, or extreme panic and worry.

Weiner: Sure. We do in depth red-cell workouts, tabletop workouts, notably round precisely what you’ve simply described, which is how do you handle your incident response and marry that up together with your outward-facing communication technique. We do in depth coaching for simply that, particularly in an unconventional assault.

We have now to have coordination. We’ve got to make it possible for info that’s delicate is protected, however that as a lot info as potential is disseminated to the general public. The Division has achieved a very good job of toeing that line very rigorously. Even in case you take a look at what occurred [on December 13, 2018] with the collection of emails threatening explosions all through the nation, Bitcoin ransom calls for, NYPD was one of many first to publicly say “that is our evaluation of the menace. We don’t view it as credible.” We acknowledge the necessity to converse to the general public early and sometimes in the middle of an incident, within the aftermath of an incident, and in preparation for the subsequent potential incident. That helps the general public be extra conscious and extra resilient and have the belief that we all know what we’re doing to allow them to give attention to dwelling their lives.

Teubner: And we do assessments earlier than all main occasions within the metropolis. Our analysts think about the occasion within the context of the present menace setting, to incorporate any current incidents which will impression the safety state of affairs and assume by way of the potential techniques that could possibly be used towards that occasion, to incorporate CBRN. We get that evaluation out to the uniformed officers for his or her consciousness—and we additionally present potential indicators of a menace that they could see beforehand. We additionally produce a model of that occasion evaluation for our private-sector companions by means of the NYPD Defend web site, in order that that evaluation will get out to the widest attainable viewers for his or her consciousness and preparedness and in addition as a force-multiplier for potential early detection and disruption.

CTC: Ladies have performed very important roles in U.S. counterterrorism efforts. You’re each in senior management positions on the NYPD. What’s your message to ladies who’re serious about embarking on a profession in counterterrorism?

Weiner: My deep and abiding message can be one among encouragement. The counterterrorism mission—which retains us up at night time and wakes us up within the morning—is as rewarding as it’s demanding. It is necessary for younger ladies who’re beginning out of their careers to acknowledge that they’ve feminine mentors and position fashions, greater than ever earlier than. It’s, in fact, difficult, as with all different busy job the place you must stability work life with residence life. However to know that the work that takes you away from your loved ones helps a mission that folks’s lives and family members rely upon is extremely rewarding. There isn’t any higher profession path, for my part.

Teubner: I agree. I strongly encourage younger ladies to get into the sector of nationwide safety, counterterrorism, and to acknowledge that there are totally different roles to play. I feel that there are ladies which are going to need to be engaged on the very granular degree, operational degree, to be out within the subject, partaking. After which there are ladies that may need to do the evaluation and take a strategic take a look at the menace. And hopefully, as extra ladies get into counterterrorism work, they’ll have position fashions in senior management and acknowledge that there are various totally different pathways to success on this subject. Rebecca and I began out in several positions, and we’ve totally different backgrounds, however we ended up right here working collectively and may present hopefully youthful analysts and youthful ladies that there [are] many various methods to interrupt into this subject. I’ve had the privilege of working for and with some actually fantastic, sensible, inspiring ladies all through my profession. It’s a subject in which there’s a camaraderie that comes out of that that’s, I feel, exhausting to seek out in different careers. That sense of function could be very rewarding and helps drive you each day.

CTC: What retains you up at night time?

Weiner: There are various methods to wreak havoc and import mayhem into our every day working setting. You could have your parade of terribles. On the far finish of the spectrum can be a drone flying over New York Metropolis airspace that’s been weaponized by some sort of chemical agent. On the different finish of the spectrum is one thing we now have already seen and anticipate to maintain seeing—resembling a car ramming or edged weapon assault. The very fact is that holistically, all of those parts should be correctly resourced to offer for mitigation alternatives, and we do this. We attempt to ensure that we spend our days occupied with this parade in order that we don’t need to spend our nights coping with them.

CTC: What makes you sleep higher at night time?

Weiner: One thing that basically must be emphasised is that NYPD is exclusive—and notably so amongst municipal regulation enforcement entities. It has two dominant strengths which have allowed us to know threats as they evolve and mitigate them. First is the range of the Division, which turned majority minority in 2006. That is unparalleled inside comparable businesses throughout the nation. Second is the area information of the analysts and the investigators that help our operations—information that permits us to know cultural norms, differentiate sign from noise, and detect anomaly shortly sufficient to answer it.

CTC: You’re saying it’s a police division that displays and understands not simply the town however the world.

Weiner: Precisely. And that’s a very essential a part of the story of what we do and all the efforts that help what we do analytically.

Teubner: Simply to construct on that time—as a result of the menace is so numerous—we acknowledge the significance of partnerships, collaboration, and knowledge sharing. It builds not solely a greater understanding of the menace setting right here and globally, however it builds resiliency all through the group, all through the town. Having the belief of the group is essential. We need to know what the group is sensing, what they’re feeling, what they’re seeing. That’s why we stress so strongly “see one thing, say one thing.” It helps us perceive what’s occurring on the road in a wider method, making us well-positioned to counter the menace. And we’re all the time trying to adapt and evolve.

Weiner: The menace is numerous, however so are we. The menace is dynamic, and so are we.


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